Just Like the 60's!

     Remember the 1960's?

    
If you didn't like what was going on, you protested! If neccessary, you'd lay down in front of the bulldozers!

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     Well, the 60's were alive and well yesterday in the South Middle River neighborhood in Fort Lauderdale.

                 
                                  South Middle River

    
They didn't lay in front of the bulldozers, but almost!


             

       The SMRCAians actually closed down  a major city thoroughfare -Andrews Ave - all by themselves - and redirected traffic, all with found barricades and protest signs!

     They are quite mad about some of the conditions in their neighborhood, specifically unpaved sections of streets throughout their neighborhood that have never been paved since the neighborhood was developed in the 1950's.

     So, to draw attention to the unpaved roads, they redirected the Andrews Ave. unsuspecting motorists onto those unpaved roads as a detour!

             

     The City says they don't have the $750,000 it would cost to do the paving. One high ranker told me that the neighborhood is being unreasonable.

     The neighborhood doesn't think so. They say find the money - pave the roads.

      And if the City doesn't? The neighborhood says they are just getting started - "wait until they see what we have in store for them next"!


 

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  • 11/25/2012 10:32 AM Anonymous wrote:
    Sistrunk original contract $12,992,873.41 in July 2010. city found $1,100,000.+/- as of april 2012 to fund nine (9) change orders on top of the $12,992,873.41. that amount would more than pay for ALL paving and grading in MRT.
    So exactly why can't city start paving the never paved streets in the neighborhood? city found money for the change orders.
    stop stalling with a $100,000.00 engineer design fee to placate consultants and their wallets.
    get 'er done.
    next step should be a lawsuit.
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    1. 12/5/2012 5:40 PM get informed wrote:
      Paid for out of CRA funds, not the city's coffers. Are the residents of SMR ready to dig into their pockets to pay for the paving? Becasue that is how it is supposed to be done. When a street is paved for the first time, the property owners lining that street are assessed. Be careful what you ask for.
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  • 11/25/2012 12:24 PM Pragmatist wrote:
    Hey, They than build $250 thousand dollar gyms in fire stations they can pave the roads..
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  • 11/25/2012 12:38 PM Pragmatist wrote:
    UNDER THE "While no one was looking" "fire Stations" in Broward little diddy,

    Broward’s construction costs exceeded comparable facilities by ""84%."""
    We compared costs for Broward’s four stations to average construction costs for the seven local facilities, by type of facility. We found that Broward’s costs exceeded the comparable facilities’
    costs for each of the three facility types:
     For the 2-bay station, Broward’s Everglades cost of $4.87 million is 139% higher than the average cost of $2.04 million for comparable facilities,  For the 3-bay stations:
    o Broward’s Air/Seaport cost of $7.04 million is 99% higher than the average cost of $3.54 million for comparable facilities,

    Office of the County Auditor
    P.S. They recommended the County administrator PAY MORE ATTENTION!!
    Perhaps this is why your roads arent being paved!!!!
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  • 11/25/2012 12:48 PM Mary Pat Rhodes wrote:
    SMRCA might of had paved streets last year if they pressured the elected officials for them. Seems last year you could get almost any promise out the candidates. Sadly some rather narcissistic people got into office.

    High Ranker, How are the streets in your neighborhood? Just find the money and pave the roads!

    Today, the citizens of Fort Lauderdale are looking at a $250,000 plus special election. And SMRCA is being unreasonable?
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    1. 11/25/2012 3:34 PM civil engineer wrote:
      $250k for spec election to re-re-elect Charlotte Rodstrom is 1/3 money to pave the streets.
      as to last yearpre-election promises, the whole slate was re-elected so they are obviously doing a good job for a few. like 10%.
      from photo Tim posted looks like city will NOT pave these roads because
      crown of a newly paved road would be higher than the fin. fl. elev. in the houses on these streets, houses would flood, and right now the whole 'road bed' is pervious allows percolation. paving them reduces percolation area. result more guaranteed flooding in the houses on these streets and in the neighborhhod.
      engineering must come up with storm water plan before paving, and thats perforated drain pipe under all of the streets before paving.
      your looking at minimum 4 year project the way this crew at city hall works. even if we had the $5,000,000.00 that all of this will cost on the handful of strrets.
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      1. 11/25/2012 9:59 PM Mary Pat Rhodes wrote:
        Dear Civil Engineer,

        The 18 roads to be paved were in the SMRCA Master Plan of 2006, this was final in 2008. If we can entertain beach garages, provide cover at city hall, throw money into a the old school building again and again (after stupid errors) can't they find money to help these people of South Middle River?

        SMRCA is a strong community of people that just deserve to be treated better. Look back at Tim's posts and see that it is SMRCA that get the short end of the stick.

        It is sad that only 10% of the community votes in the city election. Maybe this time the people will come out or the 10% will just be tired of the lip service they received in the pass. To be ignored by your city elected officials might just make people come out in force.

        On a positive note: This past summer my neighborhood water mains were switched out. The city workers (#6114) were great workers. They kept us, the neighbors informed, cleaned up each evening, allow us to always pass by and were quick.
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      2. 11/25/2012 11:29 PM Marie wrote:
        I am not an engineer but I do live in this neighborhood. The City had a study done of the roads in question to the tune of $100K or so. Then they came up with the estimate of $700K to $750K. If the issues you raise would make that project $5M then they should all be fired because, if you are right, then none of them know what they are doing.
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        1. 11/26/2012 9:06 AM Civil Engineer II wrote:
          Are you certain? I would like to read that study.
          Here’s why. How many lineal feet of paving is needed on never paved roads? If all are flat like the photo above, they need excavating, 24” or so of compacted limerock base, a few lifts of various compacted asphalt, graded to slope from street centerline to edges of swale, and at each intersection of existing streets. While they are at it, how old are water and sewer pipes in neighborhood? Other utilities buried? FPL? Comcast? BellSouth? No sense in paving the streets correctly the first time, only to dig up to replace aging ruptured pipes after paving? This cannot be done for $750,000.00, unless that is base low bid, and the $4,000,000.00 in Change Orders will follow.
          Until property owners city wide demand equal representation the disparity across the city will continue. 10% consistently vote and perpetuate this under-representation on the dais. Why? How could streets never been paved? Included in Waterworks 2010 when $800++ Million Dollars of Bond Money was spent? Voters in district 2 have an opportunity to send a strong and clear message in January. But will they? And if the rumored run for governor by the mayor is believed,
          http://www.browardbeat.com/demos-cant-count-rick-scott-out-yet/
          we can send another strong and clear message when we replace him.
          Until voters do our job, we will never compel them to do theirs. And the unpaved MRT streets like everything else in our neighborhood, will still be there in 5 years from now.
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        2. 11/27/2012 8:04 PM Pragmatist wrote:
          The neighborhood itself could do it at a 10th the price,(if it didnt have to go thru the nepotism tunnel these things travel on) I would love the neighborhood to get a bid, pay for it then submit the bill to the city..ahh a fly on the wall to see their faces..
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  • 11/25/2012 5:04 PM King World wrote:
    How about this, lets add a penny sales tax on malt liquor and rolling papers on all convenience stores in the SMRT and the rest of the NW areas. With that money we can get police cameras for neighborhoods east of Federal to fight crime and recover stolen goods. How does that get the road paved? Duh? It doesnt, but if the people in these neighborhoods cant afford their vices they will move. When they move, my pals and I can buy the land cheap and create a "work town" where the homes can house civil servants and others from the servant class who serve the residents in the "right" areas.

    See, simple, problem solved.
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  • 11/25/2012 5:41 PM Lester Zalewski wrote:
    The city is pushing costly garages (which are unnecessary as per city parking study) to be built at the beach but no money for streets?

    Lester Zalewski
    lesterz.com
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    1. 11/25/2012 10:27 PM Anonymous wrote:
      parking at grade and in garages is 'recurring revenue stream' to the jokers planning budgets at 100 n andrews
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    2. 11/25/2012 10:28 PM Anonymous wrote:
      parking at grade and in garages is 'recurring revenue stream' to the jokers planning budgets at 100 n andrews
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    3. 12/5/2012 5:44 PM get informed wrote:
      Lester, as a candidate for office, I would suggest that you get up to speed on the difference between a parking system's garages funded by meter revenue and streets paved with general fund tax dollars.
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  • 12/9/2012 7:16 PM Sal Gatanio wrote:
    All the studies show that the ifrastructure is already in place...Just curious, 2 1/2 minutes after sending pictures of Andrews being detorued 3 offices arrived on the scene and threatened to arrest us... 2 1/2 minutes when people wait hours for an officer after being robbed.. think we ruffled some feathers.. So as Tim mentioned wait till you see what we have planned for New Years eve weekend... We are not asking for much, but improving these third world country conditions would do a major boost for the economy, all the houses can start to be sold and we can get rid of the criminals that affect other communities.. This is far more than just keeping SMR locked up and sufficated.. We like the Mayor, but honestly what a sad statement for the commission and city manager not being able to come together and get the job done..
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