Gun Show ..... My Observations

     I just got back from the Gun Show at the War Memorial


     

     I wanted to see if some of what I've been reading was true. It was packed to be sure! 

     One local blogger has been making quite a few accusations about illegal behavior taking place at the show and I went to check it out- to see if I could confirm that.

     First, the blogger said that "there were no Police anywhere".

     
I found plenty Police, and I didn't even have to look far!- 

               

     ...... they were just feet from the front door.


            

      .... there were also numerous cruisers around the area.

      I called some law enforcement contacts that told me there were Police there both days, but more today after controversy arose. He said there were "walking teams" checking the parking lots, and units at the door.

     I had also heard a rumor that there were undercover officers inside, checking to see if laws were being broken.

     For this rumor, I had to go right to the Chief of Police, Frank Adderley.



     The Chief would not confirm, but did tell me that they [the Police department] had very good cooperation with "the feds", and that he was confident that all laws would be monitored, inside and out!

     I also read that guns and bullets were being sold out in the parking lots. I walked the perimeter and couldn't find any guns being sold. I did find people handing out flyers - 



     Guess I could go to Hollywood and buy me a Machine Gun!

     People at the show said the dealers inside were "running low" on supplies, and credited the media interest/gun control controversy with the big crowds.

     The City has a multi year contract with the operator to run the gun show, and State law prohibits the City from regulating it.

     Some local leaders have been lobbying the Mayor and Commission to stop the show if it includes assault style weapons and high capacity magazines. I agree with them.

     The only option the City seems to have is to not rent City property for the show.

     What do you think?
   
     

     

    
 

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  • 1/13/2013 3:36 PM ginnee wrote:
    I like guns and own them. Love the gun shows, if people don't, then they should not go to them. Stay home and go about your day. As for the City renting space for shows....not a problem for me, nor should it be for you. Their money spends...and we don't discriminate. Or do we? Don't like rodeos, don't go. Don't like bars, don't go. Don't like gay marriage, then don't marry the same sex. Don't like porn?....best stay out of those places. Nothing wrong with guns. I would suggest banning Prozac...because the mass shooters have been on Prozak or Prozak like drugs. We have a problem....it is not the gun. Cars kill a lot more people than guns, you have not banned them. In each case there is a human involved....Perhaps it is the human we should look at.
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    1. 1/13/2013 5:15 PM Marge wrote:
      Why does anyone need an assault weapen?
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  • 1/13/2013 4:18 PM citizen wrote:
    city needs the revenue and cops probably are getting overtime so it really doesn't matter what citizens think
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  • 1/13/2013 5:14 PM Marge wrote:
    I say DON'T RENT for gun shows.
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  • 1/13/2013 10:15 PM Paul Gougelman wrote:
    Florida law (Section 790.33, Fla.Stat.) was amended in 2011 at the request of the NRA lobbyist to provide that local governments, such as the City, are preempted from adopting or enforcing any legislation regarding guns or ammunition, except as provided by state law. An exception in the law is the right to zone in a way that does not discriminate against the sale or manufacture of guns or ammunition. The 2011 law is a rather unique piece of legislation. It is the only law that specifically provides that elected or appointed officials can be fined up to $5,000 each for violation of the law, and no public funds can be used to defend the officials against a charge of violating the law. I know of no other law that so provides.
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    1. 1/14/2013 3:58 PM Marge wrote:
      THAT is an amazing piece of information, and I thank you for it. So it's up to the federal govt. to pre-empt state laws? We're stuck (for lack of a more descriptive word).
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    2. 1/14/2013 6:27 PM Anonymous wrote:
      And it further states they can be removed from office. Florida legislators are disgusting, their allegiance is to the NRA and not to the people that they serve. Holiday. Park users are S.O.L. on gun show days for 2013 for sure. 7 more shows to go.
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  • 1/13/2013 11:17 PM Dennis Ulmer wrote:
    The Gun Shows have been at War Memorial for years. I believe in back ground checks etc. for gun purchases, and seeing that all laws are obeyed inside and outside the auditorium during the show. Other than that, I say let them rent the facility if they wish to do so. The rental issue at War Memorial was discussed by the City Commission in I believe 2006. The issue that lead to the discussion, was the exhibit of the human cadavers that were part of the "Bodies the Exhibition". The bodies were preserved in a process called "plastination". The issue was how the bodies were obtained in China. The exhibition was rejected by the city on ethical grounds, and I supported that decision. That decision was based on the fact that the origin of the human remains could not be properly documented.
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  • 1/15/2013 10:24 AM Bob wrote:
    The question really is: "Why does Fort Lauderdale encourage circumvention of the few laws we have on the books?"

    There are many licensed gun dealers operating in our city. They rent or own space in city, pay local taxes and employ local residents year round. They conduct background checks -- or at least they are suppose to. Those selling guns on the steps of the War Memorial don't. So why does the city encourage out-of-towners to come and create an unregulated arms bazaar on city property? There are plenty of private venues in south Florida for Gun Expo promoters to hold their events. Does our City have to be a willing participant to an end-run around common-sense rules? This isn't a legal or constitutional issue ..... it's simply a matter of the city's rental policies.

    The standard political line is "We don't need more laws, just enforce the laws we have". One way to enforce the spirit of a law is to limit the opportunities to take advantage of loopholes. I would encourage our city leaders to do that (it's not much, I'll admit).

    In the meantime, let's pray there wasn't some mental case in Holiday Park last weekend who will be the subject of tomorrow's headlines.
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  • 1/15/2013 3:00 PM City Activist Robert Walsh wrote:
    Few facts here. Number one the "Gun Show" has been coming to the War Memorial for seems like decades. They paid for the permits($$)and always play by the rules. There is usually never any incidents w/ the gun show exhibit. This so called concerned citizen, activist no other than Bo-Bo Justice himself Earl Rynerson(he's baaack). Again he spreads his wings (among other things) and demands to see the permits etc, demands to talk to the City Attorney. Again everyone complies w/ Mr.Rynerson's request. Then he demands(again) to meet w/ Mayor Seiler, demands that Mayor Seiler suspend the show, demands that the "Police" stop everyone from going in etc(really Bo-Bo). So Mayor, if Earl Rynerson says jump, you must say how high(as if). Good for you Mayor for not meeting w/ Earl. What was the object here to suspend the "Gun Show" get the City sued for "breach of contract"etc. I find it concerning that big Earl Rynerson would exploit the masacre in Conn, just so Early here can get his voice heard again.As far as Chief Adderlly and what is this " his cooperation" w/ the Feds-true(my next Clarice Starling).One suggestion Chief lets take care of our dirty laundry before we tackle the nations proplems etc. As I type this dazzling VP JOe Biden is making recommendations to the President today. Should there be more oversight of course. Lets let the President give us direction and not Earl Rynerson.
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